Thank you for your work on ZeroDS 1.0. It's working beautifully.
Is there any chance that future versions might incorporate a working Scale2x filter, or possibly wrap a copy of No$Zoomer along with no$GBA? It would be handy to have some mechanism for scaling, given the resolution of modern monitors.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:27 PM
Yeah, i want those zoomers in there, too, since the DS screens are too small to view on big screens.
But unfortunately, they all don't work with CrossOver, CXZ or Wineskin, they all cause the Wrappers to crash.
I tried about 8 or 9 zoomers in total (even japanese only apps), and each and every one didn't work in the Wrappers.
I don't know with what programming language these guys are developing the zoomers, but they seriously gave me a hard time until i gave up on them.
I recently had a launcher from Mysoft in build v0.2, but it gave a lot of users the crashing therapy.
And it's a shame that the no$GBA dev discontinued this gem...
If you find some zoomer launchers that work with CrossOver, gimme a call :)
But unfortunately, they all don't work with CrossOver, CXZ or Wineskin, they all cause the Wrappers to crash.
I tried about 8 or 9 zoomers in total (even japanese only apps), and each and every one didn't work in the Wrappers.
I don't know with what programming language these guys are developing the zoomers, but they seriously gave me a hard time until i gave up on them.
I recently had a launcher from Mysoft in build v0.2, but it gave a lot of users the crashing therapy.
And it's a shame that the no$GBA dev discontinued this gem...
If you find some zoomer launchers that work with CrossOver, gimme a call :)
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:31 PM
I'd love to see the zoomer working. I'll be patient though.
If I can ask, what zoomers have you tried? (don't want to recommend one that you already tried)
If I can ask, what zoomers have you tried? (don't want to recommend one that you already tried)
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:45 PM
I think i spend a weekend trying out every zoomer i could find.
If you want to help me find a working one, copy the no§gba directory from the Wrapper contents and try out a bunch of zoomers in the normal CrossOver.
If you want to help me find a working one, copy the no§gba directory from the Wrapper contents and try out a bunch of zoomers in the normal CrossOver.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:58 PM
devilhunter said:
I think i spend a weekend trying out every zoomer i could find.
If you want to help me find a working one, copy the no§gba directory from the Wrapper contents and try out a bunch of zoomers in the normal CrossOver.
If you want to help me find a working one, copy the no§gba directory from the Wrapper contents and try out a bunch of zoomers in the normal CrossOver.
I'll give it a try later today or this weekend. Just to ask: Did you try MyZoomer? that is the one I am going to test.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 05:08 PM
yeah i tried MyZoomer, but not in Wineskin.
I tried all i could find in CXZ, but not in Wineskin. Wineskin wasn't compatible enough then and it got a lot better recently. Try them out in wineskin, too.
I tried all i could find in CXZ, but not in Wineskin. Wineskin wasn't compatible enough then and it got a lot better recently. Try them out in wineskin, too.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 05:18 PM
Actually just check it. It kinda works. Using CXG 8.1.4 I can get myZoomer to launch and display the DS screens at a higher resolution, but it doesn't take any input. You must select the No$GBA window to interact with the touch screen or register any button presses. Worth taking a look at it I suppose.
myZoom V 1.0: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8w327cl
myZoom V 1.0: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8w327cl
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 05:23 PM
I remember that issue, so this was with myZoomer.
Having two 4 screens instead of two was kind of a weird experience.
Not very user friendly or easy to use, but it was one of the few that didn't quit right on the start.
I'll make a quick test how it behaves in wineskin.
Having two 4 screens instead of two was kind of a weird experience.
Not very user friendly or easy to use, but it was one of the few that didn't quit right on the start.
I'll make a quick test how it behaves in wineskin.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 05:31 PM
Just to note, I tired Ver 1.0. I'm trying to download 1.8.36 and 1.8.27 but am having issues connecting to mediaFire and zShare (RapidShare download is corrupted according to StuffIt). I have a Dr appointment to go to, but I will test these version out when I get back.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:19 PM
I'm definitely not a technical person, and I could easily be writing something irrelevant, but I'm not so sure that the "zoomer" conflicts are due to the zoomer applications themselves.
I messed around with it for about an hour this morning using the standard Crossover. Initially I was having trouble even getting Crossover to "Save Command to Programs Menu" for repeated testing purposes. So I logged my attempts and discovered that Crossover/Wine was truncating its strings at each $ (dollar sign). It was looking for "C:\Program Files\No\No.EXE" rather than "C:\Program Files\No$GBA\No$Zoomer.EXE", for example.
Renaming the directory and No$Zoomer.EXE file to not use dollar signs allowed me to "Save Command to Programs Menu" and begin working with the file. No$zoomer still wouldn't launch no$GBA, it just opened and closed shortly thereafter, so I logged what it was doing. Similar to the prior issue, no$Zoomer.exe was attempting to launch "C:\Program Files\No\No.EXE" rather than "C:\Program Files\No$GBA\No$GBA.EXE". So I renamed No$GBA.EXE to No.EXE, and No$Zoomer was then able to integrate with it and launch it. However, it just launched it in vanilla format. I'm assuming (probably incorrectly since I'm not a programmer) that the hooks that the code initiates between the two applications is being broken by all my various renames.
In any case, it seems to my very uninformed eyes that the Crossover/Wine code for handling string arguments isn't being properly delimited or isn't adding in the needed escape characters to prevent dollar signs in the file name from truncating the string.
This would probably require more testing by someone knowledgeable, but if the problem (or at least one problem) is really something as simple as Crossover not liking the dollar signs in the file names, perhaps some work around might be crafted from that knowledge.
I messed around with it for about an hour this morning using the standard Crossover. Initially I was having trouble even getting Crossover to "Save Command to Programs Menu" for repeated testing purposes. So I logged my attempts and discovered that Crossover/Wine was truncating its strings at each $ (dollar sign). It was looking for "C:\Program Files\No\No.EXE" rather than "C:\Program Files\No$GBA\No$Zoomer.EXE", for example.
Renaming the directory and No$Zoomer.EXE file to not use dollar signs allowed me to "Save Command to Programs Menu" and begin working with the file. No$zoomer still wouldn't launch no$GBA, it just opened and closed shortly thereafter, so I logged what it was doing. Similar to the prior issue, no$Zoomer.exe was attempting to launch "C:\Program Files\No\No.EXE" rather than "C:\Program Files\No$GBA\No$GBA.EXE". So I renamed No$GBA.EXE to No.EXE, and No$Zoomer was then able to integrate with it and launch it. However, it just launched it in vanilla format. I'm assuming (probably incorrectly since I'm not a programmer) that the hooks that the code initiates between the two applications is being broken by all my various renames.
In any case, it seems to my very uninformed eyes that the Crossover/Wine code for handling string arguments isn't being properly delimited or isn't adding in the needed escape characters to prevent dollar signs in the file name from truncating the string.
This would probably require more testing by someone knowledgeable, but if the problem (or at least one problem) is really something as simple as Crossover not liking the dollar signs in the file names, perhaps some work around might be crafted from that knowledge.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:24 PM
Sadly, my overly simplistic tests weren't terribly useful. Additional problems arose after addressing the naming/parsing issues.
It really would be fantastic to eventually be able to incorporate no$zoomer, or something similar, not only for the magnification and filtering capabilities. There are so many game fixes/patches that have been bundled into the latest versions of no$zoomer to address shortcomings in the rarely updated no$gba, that they'd be a huge help in compatibility of the emulator.
It really would be fantastic to eventually be able to incorporate no$zoomer, or something similar, not only for the magnification and filtering capabilities. There are so many game fixes/patches that have been bundled into the latest versions of no$zoomer to address shortcomings in the rarely updated no$gba, that they'd be a huge help in compatibility of the emulator.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:54 AM
Could someone tell if youcan use No Zoomer with Crossover , Wineskin, ....
I even tried in Parallels Desktop Windows XP and doesn't work why ? But still is a good thing No Gba is working great !
Hope someone helps me and others
I even tried in Parallels Desktop Windows XP and doesn't work why ? But still is a good thing No Gba is working great !
Hope someone helps me and others
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 11:11 AM
no$zoomer requires the .net framework 2.0 on Windows.
And the zoomers don't work with Wineskin or Crossover, not a single one of them.
There is a Zoomer from MySoft that works in CXZ, but it makes the Port very unstable.
And the zoomers don't work with Wineskin or Crossover, not a single one of them.
There is a Zoomer from MySoft that works in CXZ, but it makes the Port very unstable.
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:33 AM
Hmmm, i think that desmume has a screen zoomer that might suffice to this...
Keep up the good work
Keep up the good work
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