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#31 doh123

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:01 PM

I get the same "large files" thing if your talking about that... but thats not an issue.  I install Core Fonts or All Fonts and it works fine

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 07:53 AM

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I get the same "large files" thing if your talking about that... but thats not an issue.  I install Core Fonts or All Fonts and it works fine

Alright retested again and yes it works now :D

Ow, by the way, it shouldn't (have to test it a bit, but i am now at work) matter that if you put the Mac to sleep and then on again that the open files value decreased again?
Maybe you can look at the CXZ wrapper (Devilhunter made that one?) and see how they handled the open files stuff without need to restart the computer? Many thanks in advance!

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mmmm...maybe i found something...

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Does this help you find a solution?

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Another thing i encountered, is that if you set in the config of the game on the native resolution of your monitor (in my case 1920x1080), it doesn't go full screen, it will keep your "mac bar" in the screen at the the top. If i change the resolution a bit lower then it does work proper...Some important issue that i encountered at some games is that there is a focos lose/screenfreeze which happens in games. Like in Nancy Drew it happens ingame in some versions, it happens in fifa 11 too at the start, you see the start pcture of kaka, and then it should go over to choose language, but that doenst happen, that first picture freezes. If i quit the game with cmd q and then restart it at once again, it does work...sometrhing really wierd, but i got dozen complains of users about that so....i put a dubugcode below. that problem is since winery/wrapper update, not sure which one.

So it did work proper earlier.

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Browse buttons should start at the right default location now if a space is int he wrapper or path name

That's a big relieve, had did quite a lot.

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I saw you put up the 1.3.4 engine! thanks  :good: . I will test some more tonight. The only thing now is missing is more engines  :wink: ones i would really like are: 1.1.40 and 1.1.25 and 1.1.43. Many many thanks in advance!  :Bravo:  :Rose:  :friends:  :beer:

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Dragging and dropping (or open with) a .exe, .msi, or .bat from Finder should run it. This is very useful for running installers, especially for end users.
Well...i don't not really see the use, because when i double click an .exe file. it just opens winecfg....don't know what it should do....not something useful or something (for me at least,without a wrapper you cant install anything right?), but at the moment this only overrules my 'boxer" program which normally opens exe files  :unknown:
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:01 PM

PaulTheTall, please your edit button on posts if you are posting more than two times in a row. Gratuitous posting is not allowed. Just edit your previous post.

I've cleaned it up a bit and all the information you provided is there, in one post. There is no reason to post six times in arow.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 01:17 PM

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PaulTheTall, please your edit button on posts if you are posting more than two times in a row. Gratuitous posting is not allowed. Just edit your previous post.

I've cleaned it up a bit and all the information you provided is there, in one post. There is no reason to post six times in arow.

Alright, i wil do so  :sorry:
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:28 PM

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doh123 said:

I get the same "large files" thing if your talking about that... but thats not an issue.  I install Core Fonts or All Fonts and it works fine

Alright retested again and yes it works now :D

Ow, by the way, it shouldn't (have to test it a bit, but i am now at work) matter that if you put the Mac to sleep and then on again that the open files value decreased again?
Maybe you can look at the CXZ wrapper (Devilhunter made that one?) and see how they handled the open files stuff without need to restart the computer? Many thanks in advance!
sleep shouldnt affect it.
CXZ is a Crossover hack... there is no source code available since only Codeweavers has it, so there is no way to know how they handle it.

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mmmm...maybe i found something...

Spoiler

Does this help you find a solution?

no...
that has nothing to do with OSX.  I know how to change limits, but OSX defaults to unlimited total, with only 250 per user.  If you ever change it from that, it will NOT allow unlimited on the max anymore (have to reboot), and whatever you set it to is now the user and the max... meaning from he 1st change it can only go down, never up again until its reset.  The only way I've found to rest it is rebooting, so the only thing that would help is if you find a way to reset it back to defaults without rebooting.

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Another thing i encountered, is that if you set in the config of the game on the native resolution of your monitor (in my case 1920x1080), it doesn't go full screen, it will keep your "mac bar" in the screen at the the top. If i change the resolution a bit lower then it does work proper...that problem is since winery/wrapper update, not sure which one.
check the refresh rate the game is calling.
Xquartz handles screen changes by leaving the rootless resolutions available as well.  If the game has called one of the rootless resolutions, it will leave the dock and top bar.  The game should NOT try to call a rootless resolution because they are listed in Xquartz as having 1 Hz refresh rate, and the standard old fullscreen with a 2Hz.  All the fullscreen good resos to use have 60Hz.  If you game is calling the wrong resolution/refresh rate combo, it can draw wrong.

If you call a full screen reso it should work fine though. ... like on my built in screen, 1280x800... if the game calls any 1280x800 reso it WILL be fullscreen and not rootless.  The rootless resolution is 1280x778.. slightly off because it gives room for the top bar.  make sure the reso your calling is really 1920x1080 and not 1920x1058 ... 1920x1058 (or whatever it is) will run the rootless resolution on top of the desktop.

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I saw you put up the 1.3.4 engine! thanks  :good: . I will test some more tonight. The only thing now is missing is more engines  :wink: ones i would really like are: 1.1.40 and 1.1.25 and 1.1.43. Many many thanks in advance!  :Bravo:  :Rose:  :friends:  :beer:
I have an extremely high load in school with a few computer theory classes and organic chemistry, physics, and the like... I am quite busy, so I just get to things when I can.  All you have to do is install Xcode, download the source code to the Wine version and click through the build menu.

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Dragging and dropping (or open with) a .exe, .msi, or .bat from Finder should run it. This is very useful for running installers, especially for end users.
Well...i don't not really see the use, because when i double click an .exe file. it just opens winecfg....don't know what it should do....not something useful or something (for me at least,without a wrapper you cant install anything right?), but at the moment this only overrules my 'boxer" program which normally opens exe files  :unknown:

you don't have to Open With, but its nice for an end user of your wrapper to be able to install their program without running Wineskin.app.  I use the same method to have a WSWine app on my machine with the drive_c symlinked out and use it as a general Wine usage tool on my machine.  Theres still some limitations to doing that which I plan to fix so this can be done by anyone easily.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:33 PM

Another thing i encountered, is that if you set in the config of the game on the native resolution of your monitor (in my case 1920x1080), it doesn't go full screen, it will keep your "mac bar" in the screen at the the top. If i change the resolution a bit lower then it does work proper...Found already the problem wromg resolution (higher than i had).

Some important issue that i encountered at some games is that there is a focos lose/screenfreeze which happens in games. Like in Nancy Drew it happens ingame in some versions, it happens in fifa 11 too at the start, you see the start pcture of kaka, and then it should go over to choose language, but that doenst happen, that first picture freezes. If i quit the game with cmd q and then restart it at once again, it does work...sometrhing really wierd, but i got dozen complains of users about that so....i put a dubugcode below. that problem is since winery/wrapper update, not sure which one.

So it did work proper earlier.

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Ok i already fixed it, for fifa11 you need to install directx9 (winetrick). For Nancy drew...i have no idea... Ooops, nope that didnt fixed it...help!

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CXZ is a Crossover hack... there is no source code available since only Codeweavers has it, so there is no way to know how they handle it.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:46 PM

Actually, there is stuff in CX that Codeweavers are not allowed to release due to licensing issues..

And some of their own commercial 'secret sauce', of course.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:02 PM

yeah, i know...:P Was joking around with Doh, however, that focos lose/screenfreeze issue is an important issue here, what desperatly need a fix.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:52 PM

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yeah, i know...:P Was joking around with Doh, however, that focos lose/screenfreeze issue is an important issue here, what desperatly need a fix.

any screen freezing issues is extremely unlikely to be Wineskin related... its usually always to do with Wine itself.

Now focus loss at times in fullscreen (nothing that locks up or breaks anything) does happen, because Xquartz doesn't capture the display.  I've been working on ways to try and fix that, but its not easy... Xquartz is very complicated.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 09:07 PM

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yeah, i know...:P Was joking around with Doh, however, that focos lose/screenfreeze issue is an important issue here, what desperatly need a fix.

any screen freezing issues is extremely unlikely to be Wineskin related... its usually always to do with Wine itself.

Now focus loss at times in fullscreen (nothing that locks up or breaks anything) does happen, because Xquartz doesn't capture the display.  I've been working on ways to try and fix that, but its not easy... Xquartz is very complicated.

Yeah  i know. But You will help a lot of people with it, because i get overwelmed with mails about this issue its an subborn problem, but! the wierd thing is, it DID work in wineskin 2 beta earlier its after some updates of the wrapper somehow i think it was in beta 5 it still worked....
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 12:07 AM

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doh123 said:

paulthetall said:

yeah, i know...:P Was joking around with Doh, however, that focos lose/screenfreeze issue is an important issue here, what desperatly need a fix.

any screen freezing issues is extremely unlikely to be Wineskin related... its usually always to do with Wine itself.

Now focus loss at times in fullscreen (nothing that locks up or breaks anything) does happen, because Xquartz doesn't capture the display.  I've been working on ways to try and fix that, but its not easy... Xquartz is very complicated.

Yeah  i know. But You will help a lot of people with it, because i get overwelmed with mails about this issue its an subborn problem, but! the wierd thing is, it DID work in wineskin 2 beta earlier its after some updates of the wrapper somehow i think it was in beta 5 it still worked....

then I need an extremely thorough description of the problem... when it worked, when it didn't... engine versions, wrapper versions... a very detailed description of what happens in the game...

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:09 AM

It still worked in beta 5.3 wrapper (its a wrapper thing i think) what happens is when you start the game fifa 11, (download the game and use a latest wineskin 2.0 rc1 1.3.4. or 1.3.9 or 1.3.10 or any of them. You will notice when you start the game it starts with a picture slide show of of 4 animations. Those will while loading change. First picture is of the player KAKA, then an option for which language will come, the 2 random pictures while loading with sponsors and stuff.

What happens is in most cases (there are some exceptions) that at the first picture while loading it freezes/get stuck, so the second picture with choosing language you won't see...when you press enter (with the first freezing picture) you notice on the background loading gos furthuer and you hear the sound at the intro, but you still see the first picture of kaka because of the freezing picture/focus loose...so there  is a focus loose problem....when you cmd +q and try again in most cases it does load properly, but that is not the way it should be, people get confused by it...
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 09:47 AM

I hope you are not seriously suggesting that doh123 downloads such a game illegally to help you figure out how it works?

Regardless of whether she wants to, it is not good to encourage such a thing in a public forum to someone. Dosbox and ScummVM fora, for instance, have a zero-tolerance ban on such suggestions.

Furthermore, the girl is obviously rather busy and it therefore seems impolite to ask her to deal with whatever  issues result from such a download.

In other words, please slow down a bit, Paul ;).

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 10:23 AM

Hi Oscar,

In the total of posts you have made i see you are not very long here. I know you mean this very upright so no hard feelings. If you have looked around on this great site, you should have seen the full games section these are full of full game Torrents downloads of full games, so those (which is in a much bigger violation) should be removed too, and if that would be the case then there available games up here would be halved. So please don't call sites communities which act totally differnt then this site.
I know Doh123  for a long time now, almost from the start of the first winskin 1.0 beta, and i do alot of testing for her (theDoctor even more, great guy!), so she knows of my countless requests/issues which i post  about wineskin ;)

In other words please slow down a bit too ;)  

I know you all mean it kind that's granted.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 11:49 AM

Hey Paul,

No offence intended. I agree that I am pretty new and not fully in on the local mores, so please accept my apologies.

It just seemed improper to ask that of someone in a public space. Anyway, as long as doh123 is fine with your enthusiasm, I will get out of your way :).

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:03 PM

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It still worked in beta 5.3 wrapper (its a wrapper thing i think) what happens is when you start the game fifa 11, (download the game and use a latest wineskin 2.0 rc1 1.3.4. or 1.3.9 or 1.3.10 or any of them. You will notice when you start the game it starts with a picture slide show of of 4 animations. Those will while loading change. First picture is of the player KAKA, then an option for which language will come, the 2 random pictures while loading with sponsors and stuff.

What happens is in most cases (there are some exceptions) that at the first picture while loading it freezes/get stuck, so the second picture with choosing language you won't see...when you press enter (with the first freezing picture) you notice on the background loading gos furthuer and you hear the sound at the intro, but you still see the first picture of kaka because of the freezing picture/focus loose...so there  is a focus loose problem....when you cmd +q and try again in most cases it does load properly, but that is not the way it should be, people get confused by it...

I'm wondering if the problem is with the engine base... the changes in Xquartz from WS5Beta3 to WS5... have you attempted to run a WS5Beta3 based engine with RC1 wrapper... and did it work?

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:18 PM

I apologize if you guys have been talking about this all along, I haven't backtraced this entire thread but I've been getting multiple crashes from Wineskin.app It's possible it's a system configuration on my end but I though I would be it to attention. Here's the crash report OSX provides and asks to be sent to Apple.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:19 PM

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I'm wondering if the problem is with the engine base... the changes in Xquartz from WS5Beta3 to WS5... have you attempted to run a WS5Beta3 based engine with RC1 wrapper... and did it work?

Thats a good one! I think it didnt work with the those wrappers either with the newest winery, before i threw away all those old engines, they had the same problem. I think where you pointing at is right. Good hunting!
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 12:50 AM

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I apologize if you guys have been talking about this all along, I haven't backtraced this entire thread but I've been getting multiple crashes from Wineskin.app It's possible it's a system configuration on my end but I though I would be it to attention. Here's the crash report OSX provides and asks to be sent to Apple.

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so thats at least 2 people now...

any way to reproduce this crash easy? Are you having a problem running Wineskin.app and the wrapper at the same time....?

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 01:55 AM

Nothing that I can think of, I'm not doing anything any differently, but speaking in terms of computer hardware the X1600 is today what the G4 Powerbook was 3 years ago.....waaayyyyyy outdated, they still work, sure but it's barely up to par for what I put it through, I'm starting to put money down on a new MBP 2011 tomorrow or the next day....hopefully it won't take until Spring to release it but it'll be a smaller monthly payment the later it's released (I'll have more money down before it is actually ordered for me). I highly doubt I'll have any of these issues when I finally get it.

As I type this out I realize that my keyboard is a bluetooth Apple keyboard. I can't imagine it would cause an issue but it's one irregularity from most people using a MBP...my keyboard stopped working when I got back from Europe in June. I think the pressure change on the plane may have had something to do with it, I don't know.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye out on console to see if any odd reports are shown after it crashes next time.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:55 AM

its just crash logs don't help a lot... I need more info like exactly what you were working on.. what you were clicking, what was running already... etc...

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 03:35 AM

Well, I know on a couple of occasions I was installing games, can't really be sure what could have been running, probably Safari, Mail, uTorrent...I'll pay more attention next time working on something and it happens.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:20 AM

@doh:  Crash dumps aren't necessarily useless, if you still have the .dSYM file generated by that build  (you should consider keeping them for every version you release, or at least for the latest).  Have a read: http://developer.app...om/tools/xcode/ ... dumps.html

For what concerns me: I'm really pleased by the RC version, and found no critical bugs so far (even though I'm really busy with my college final project and some exams, and I didn't have much time to test).  Keep up the good work :3
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:30 PM

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@doh:  Crash dumps aren't necessarily useless, if you still have the .dSYM file generated by that build  (you should consider keeping them for every version you release, or at least for the latest).  Have a read: http://portingteam.c...edirect.php?htt ... dumps.html

I'll have to figure that stuff out... never heard of any of that.  I don't think I have that file anymore.. I've changed the source a lot trying to fix Winetricks for the new version with different menus and options going live in about a week.

syao said:

For what concerns me: I'm really pleased by the RC version, and found no critical bugs so far (even though I'm really busy with my college final project and some exams, and I didn't have much time to test).  Keep up the good work :3

I find it odd 2 people are having Wineskin.app crash... I can understand it crashing or messing up if you try to use it to edit things while the wrapper is running... but if the wrapper isn't running, it should have no issues and i sure can't get it to crash.  It edits the Info.plist and a few other files, but it does it all the standard cocoa way...

Well when I get the Winetricks fix done if I still haven't found anything and release 2.0, I'll put all the source code up too and maybe someone else can figure it out

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 06:03 PM

Good day Doh.

Thanks for RC1 - good work.

I just ported Venetica with RC1 to try it it out.

All seems to be working fine for me.

I did notice one thing - and since I have been away for a few weeks I have not read all posts or half the new posts since December for that matter and I looked at known issue and did not notice it - So if it mentioned please forgive me.

I noticed after I installed the game it allowed me to pick a windows exe directory so I choose in this case /Program Files/Venetica/bin/release_optimized/Venetica.exe

However when I went back into Configuration it just showed "nothing" in that directory - however when I then set myself using browse it would stay there indefinitely.

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 06:24 PM

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Good day Doh.

Thanks for RC1 - good work.

I just ported Venetica with RC1 to try it it out.

All seems to be working fine for me.

I did notice one thing - and since I have been away for a few weeks I have not read all posts or half the new posts since December for that matter and I looked at known issue and did not notice it - So if it mentioned please forgive me.

I noticed after I installed the game it allowed me to pick a windows exe directory so I choose in this case /Program Files/Venetica/bin/release_optimized/Venetica.exe

However when I went back into Configuration it just showed "nothing" in that directory - however when I then set myself using browse it would stay there indefinitely.

Cheers.

Yup have that all the time too. I have to reset it every time, except if you go to advanced and  look if the path is set and then close.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 06:49 PM

paulthetall said:

waves said:

Good day Doh.

Thanks for RC1 - good work.

I just ported Venetica with RC1 to try it it out.

All seems to be working fine for me.

I did notice one thing - and since I have been away for a few weeks I have not read all posts or half the new posts since December for that matter and I looked at known issue and did not notice it - So if it mentioned please forgive me.

I noticed after I installed the game it allowed me to pick a windows exe directory so I choose in this case /Program Files/Venetica/bin/release_optimized/Venetica.exe

However when I went back into Configuration it just showed "nothing" in that directory - however when I then set myself using browse it would stay there indefinitely.

Cheers.

Yup have that all the time too. I have to reset it every time, except if you go to advanced and  look if the path is set and then close.

Yup in the advanced - once I set it there it stays for me too.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 08:04 PM

yeah i just recently ran into that once.. the save from the Installer isn't saving the path correctly... sometimes.  I need to test it more to see when its failing.

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