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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:13 AM

View PostBattlefiler, on 21 March 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

i think wineskin need a new skin :D like ciderx

Like this :)

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:42 AM

View Postsamm565, on 10 April 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

Like this :)

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

nice design :)
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:23 PM

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nice design :)

I'v redesigned the entire app, and all the buttons work and opens up windows like wine tricks which i have redesigned also, there is just no wine in the app, so it doesn't actually function, but i can still browse the interface, iv sent the interface as a .app to doh123 and its up to her if she wants to use it or not.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:01 PM

View Postsamm565, on 11 April 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

I'v redesigned the entire app, and all the buttons work and opens up windows like wine tricks which i have redesigned also, there is just no wine in the app, so it doesn't actually function, but i can still browse the interface, iv sent the interface as a .app to doh123 and its up to her if she wants to use it or not.
you did? I don't recall ever getting an app.

I do want to redesign the interface, but I want to make sure its really really good before making a change.. I don't like constantly changing things.

I'm thinking of the first menu being very similar to how it currently is, but when you press Advanced, instead of a whole new window popping up, it just adds advanced features to the current window and saves the settings, so showing everything "advanced" is like a toggle.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:10 AM

View Postdoh123, on 11 April 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

you did? I don't recall ever getting an app.

I do want to redesign the interface, but I want to make sure its really really good before making a change.. I don't like constantly changing things.

I'm thinking of the first menu being very similar to how it currently is, but when you press Advanced, instead of a whole new window popping up, it just adds advanced features to the current window and saves the settings, so showing everything "advanced" is like a toggle.
Doh since wineskin needs a gui change . There should be a contest to see who can make a better gui
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:24 AM

I dunno about a contest... I'm a control freak  :-)

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:41 AM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

I dunno about a contest... I'm a control freak  :-)
LoL , why not

i could organize it :D

i have some cool designs too
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 12:43 AM

I wouldn't mind input, but I won't guarantee the winner's will be used... I'd probably rather use several design concepts as ideas and modify it as needed.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:05 AM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I wouldn't mind input, but I won't guarantee the winner's will be used... I'd probably rather use several design concepts as ideas and modify it as needed.
hows this design
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:34 AM

Wasn't really talking about Winery... but... uhhh.. no, definitely not that...

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:31 AM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

Wasn't really talking about Winery... but... uhhh.. no, definitely not that...
how about something more like win7
like this
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:56 AM

why would you want a mac app that looks like Windows?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:08 AM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

why would you want a mac app that looks like Windows?
IDK its just a concept
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:20 PM

View Posthmtinc, on 12 April 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

how about something more like win7
like this
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That doesn't look so good, try making something that looks more 'mac like'.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:22 PM

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you did? I don't recall ever getting an app.

I do want to redesign the interface, but I want to make sure its really really good before making a change.. I don't like constantly changing things.

I'm thinking of the first menu being very similar to how it currently is, but when you press Advanced, instead of a whole new window popping up, it just adds advanced features to the current window and saves the settings, so showing everything "advanced" is like a toggle.
Check the latest PM that i sent you, it has a download link.

EDIT:
If you want it like that, you may not like mine, its more similar to how yours is now, just a little better navigation and some other changes to make it easier for beginners. About 90% of the buttons in the app actually link to something. A few don't, so try clicking all the buttons to see the changes that i made.

p.s The screen settings button i think pops up the advanced settings window, just click on the screen settings button in the popup though. I think i would of had to make a custom class or something so that the the screen settings/advanced button could do 2 functions, and i didn't think it was worth the effort finding a tutorial.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:30 PM

If anybody wants to have a look at the interface i designed for wineskin, link is below. Very similar to the original interface by doh123, but more user friendly i think.

http://cl.ly/Fm0k

View Postdoh123, on 11 April 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

you did? I don't recall ever getting an app.
This is a later version of the interface compared to the one i PM'ed you
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:43 PM

View Posthmtinc, on 12 April 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

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I don't think a quit button is needed, doh123 has it in wineskin and winery but people can either press "command+q", "command+w" or click the "x". They don't need a 4th option.

It's better with the title bar, i have tried to make nice interfaces without the title bar and they never work out, the title bar helps to make it look like a mac application.

I think you should some text that says winery, so that people can see what program is actually open.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:06 PM

It's difficult to make winery better, because its already so simple.

I think the only way to make the interface better is to do what hmtinc did. I personally don't like the wood but the layout of "wrapper version" and "installed engines" is very good.

I also don't like the idea of a quit button and there could be a little refresh button (not in concept) next to the "+" and "-" buttons instead of the big button that doh123 has now.

So this is what i came up with for winery (what winery looks like now).
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The buttons on the left could be raised a little, but i couldn't be bothered because editing in photoshop is slow and i can't be bothered trying to get everything lined up perfectly.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:11 PM

If you want some sort of texture in the background and not the boring gray i could try and make something that looks cool.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:31 PM

I think a texture in the back would be cool if it was something... mild and nice.

but yeah, dumping the quit buttons is possible I guess.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:36 PM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I think a texture in the back would be cool if it was something... mild and nice.

but yeah, dumping the quit buttons is possible I guess.
Since you don't like the wood texture background . How about this design More simpler .
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I think a texture in the back would be cool if it was something... mild and nice.

but yeah, dumping the quit buttons is possible I guess.

Seeing as you guys talk about this in the last few days, mind if i tune in for a bit?
Since work on the site is mostly done, i'm moving to my next project on my list. Mind if i make a sister app to this?
Since CX hit a brick wall a good while ago, i have nothing to do :P

I've already made a fully working app (currently alpha) out of Winery with a different interface and 80+ more features it can do.
Currently it looks very similar to Central, so i thought if you guys tune the official Winery for easy accessibility, i can make one that is more tailored for advanced users. (downloadable bottles, quick winetricks, compression stuff, manual, etc...)

Btw doh, Winery has about 10 times less code than Central had : ) (well because it doesn't do anything more than creating Wrappers)
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:05 PM

I really loved how CX Central worked and if you could make a similar GUI for wineskin it would be awesome!
I also know drakulix have a lot to do and could need a hand on finishing up CiderX2 :P

The Wineskin custom app is nice, but the way you could put in readme's config apps and manuals on the CX launcher was awesome!

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:29 PM

View Postdevilhunter, on 12 April 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Seeing as you guys talk about this in the last few days, mind if i tune in for a bit?
Since work on the site is mostly done, i'm moving to my next project on my list. Mind if i make a sister app to this?
Since CX hit a brick wall a good while ago, i have nothing to do :P

I've already made a fully working app (currently alpha) out of Winery with a different interface and 80+ more features it can do.
Currently it looks very similar to Central, so i thought if you guys tune the official Winery for easy accessibility, i can make one that is more tailored for advanced users. (downloadable bottles, quick winetricks, compression stuff, manual, etc...)

Btw doh, Winery has about 10 times less code than Central had : ) (well because it doesn't do anything more than creating Wrappers)

Winery can definitely use improvements.  Do you want to make a different app, or just work on Winery itself?  Have it where its very simple, then has an option to "show advanced features" where more shows up.. this is what I'm looking at doing more with Wineskin.app.

I do have some questions though how this app would work... it would reproduce things Wineskin.app does? It would be a full editor to replace Winery and Wineskin.app?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:22 PM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Winery can definitely use improvements.  Do you want to make a different app, or just work on Winery itself?  Have it where its very simple, then has an option to "show advanced features" where more shows up.. this is what I'm looking at doing more with Wineskin.app.

I do have some questions though how this app would work... it would reproduce things Wineskin.app does? It would be a full editor to replace Winery and Wineskin.app?
doh i am making a custom version of wineskin for infinity project. This way wineskin will update engines directly from the infinity project .
I am going to host the files on my site .
but i have a question . I went trough the code and found that the txt file on your site ends in ".txt?%@"
do i have to use that ending if linking wineskin to my site?
Also would all available engines have to be stored in the same directory as the txt file ?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:27 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 12 April 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

I went trough the code and found that the txt file on your site ends in ".txt?%@"
Do you mean Wineskin Winery custom? you may want to put a disclaimer on it that its not using official sources... and/or name it something like "Wineskin Infinity.app" or whatever.

The end of my URLs have a ? and random string applied to the end... with a URL this will still load the page, but it forces it to actually load instead of always loading up cache.  Some web providers have more of an issue showing cached pages for many hours over what is really there... if your web provider doesn't do that, then you may not need them, but they won't prevent it from working.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:16 AM

View Postdoh123, on 12 April 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

I dunno about a contest... I'm a control freak  :-)

You could just create a thread (whatever its called) and people could just post concepts like me and hmtinc has done, and you could still do what you want but at least you have a lot more people thinking about the interface, which means more ideas. Ideas that you don't like could go and the ones you like could stay. People could have ideas that could really make your interface better and they might have some ideas. And when enough people have showed their concepts you could make one that puts them all together, and you wouldn't have to keep changing things either.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:21 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 12 April 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Since you don't like the wood texture background . How about this design More simpler .
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The background is heaps better than the wood (less distracting) but it should go to the edges so that there isn't any white. I don't think I'm ever going to like that logo, the logo that winery has now is better, try using that. How about removing the "user commands"text too, can keep the box, but the text i don't like much.
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