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#1 Janojans

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:12 AM

Hi everyone,

I am desesperately trying to play Torment on my Macook Pro. I looked at all the posts but it's so confusing, they all send to other links, I never get something clear and simple. Does anyone is having it running on its macbook ? How did you do this miracle ? :)

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:20 AM

There already is a port of Planescape: Torment
http://portingteam.c...escape-torment/

You still need the game yourself, I used the 4 CD retail version. The instructions explain what you need to know to get the game into the port.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:44 AM

I can confirm that it does work with the digital download version from www.gog.com.
(I haven't tried the port hiphish made, but I made one with the same setting myself)

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:52 AM

I made a port not too long ago that seemed to work just fine IIRC.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:46 AM

Oh great, thanks.

Just a little problem. I put the extracted fix pack files inside the Torment folder. Then, to install it, I create a blank wrap in Wineskin and click "Install Windows app" then choose the exe file inside the Torment folder but it says this, see the screen capture.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:13 PM

It looks like you are missing a file.. Where did you get the install media?

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:07 PM

View PostJanojans, on 17 April 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Then, to install it, I create a blank wrap in Wineskin and click "Install Windows app"
That's the problem. Use my wrapper, install the game into my wrapper, vanilla, no mods, nothing. Now, right-click the wrapper (i. e. Planescape Torment.app) and browse to where your game has been installed to (remember, each wrapper contains an artificial Windows environment). Put the mod's installer there. As I understand that's what you did.
Here comes the difference: don't make a new wrapper. Inside the wrapper's contents you will find an application called Wineskin.app (not wineskin Winery, just plain wineskin, every wrapper has its own). Launch Wineskin.app, go to Advance, set the windows EXE to the mod's isntaller, chech "Use Start.exe" (should be checked if you use my wrapper), close Wineskin and launch Planescape Torment.app, as if you wanted to play the game. Now you should be able to install the mod.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:31 AM

Thank you so much for your help.
When I launch the game after following what you've said, it says : "Unable to find DIALOG.TLK in
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Please run this program in your Infinity Engine Games directory"

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I downloaded the game from GOG.com

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Can I start playing and install the mods in the future and continue my game ?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:15 AM

View PostJanojans, on 18 April 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

I downloaded the game from GOG.com
GoG games are usually installed in "C:\program Files\GoG\whatever", you copied the installer into my folder ("C:\Program Files\Black Isle\Torment"), which was from the retail release. I ripped the game out so there are no game files in that folder. You must put the installer file where you installed your game. If you are not sure where it is, run the GoG installer once again, click options on the first screen and note the path the installer proposes (cancel the installation since you already installed the game)

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Can I start playing and install the mods in the future and continue my game ?
Not sure, I think the high-res mod needed a new game, but it has been updated to give you the option to convert your savegames, but I wouldn't rely on that. Install the mods, it really easy once you get it it.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:11 AM

So I installed the first three mods, Fix Pack => UB => Tweaks

Could you explain to me how to install the Bigg's Widescreen mod, I don't understand how to do it when I read this

The exception is The Bigg’s Widescreen mod, which is one of those self-extracting archives that come as one single EXE file. Put the EXE somewhere, then install it using Wineskin’s installer (like you would install a patch or an Add On). You will have a nice GUI, set the path to your game’s directory inside the wrapper (see the point above). Once the extraction is done, the GUI will disappear. It looks like Wineskin froze, but it’s fine, if it doesn’t go away on its own after some time simply quit it by right-clicking the icon in the dock and choosing Quit. All the needed files will be in place now.

- Where should I put the single EXE file ?

- "Install it using Wineskin's installer" = by creating a new blank wrapp ?

- What is a GUI ?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:11 AM

Let me first explain something: All the mods you downloaded were compressed in a ZIP file or a RAR file. Once upon a time not everyone had internet and compression applications were not built into the OS, so people came up with the idea of self-extracting archives. Those looked like a regual application but all they did was just extract their contents somewhere. On Windows those were EXE files. This was a good idea back in the day, but now that everyone has internet flatrates and there are so man ZIP, RAR, 7ZIP, etc. compatible applications out there it has become really stupid and annoying.

Bigg's widescreen mod is one of those self-extracting archives, so you need some way of getting the contents out of it. Put the EXE file you downloaded somewhere on your hard drive (e. g. your Downloads folder). Now right-click Planescape Torment.app -> Show package contents -> Wineskin.app -> Install Windows Software -> Browse to the mod's installer. Don't make a new wrapper, we must get the mod's contents (the actual installer) into Torment's folder, the folder where you put the other mod installers.

A GUI is a "graphical user interface", basically fancy windows instead of command line applications. Here is a screenshot of what you will see:
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Set the path to where you installed Planescape Torment and press install. This won't install the mod yet, it will only extract the actual installer into your Torment directory. From then on you can install it like you installed the other mods.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:27 AM

That is again a very thoroughful answer, thank you so much. Now when I'm installing the widescreen, at some moment it asks me "Which X Coordinate - 640". If I want the full definition I should put 1280 ?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

Yes, you must specify the resolution you want to play in, first the width, then the height. Don't go too high or everything will be tiny and hard to read. You can increase the font size of dialogue boxes, but that won't increase the size of other interface components. I cannot give you recommendations since it depends on your screen size, just try 1280x800 and see if suits you. If not, run the installer again, you can run it as many times as you want.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:02 AM

Almost there. Now I've installed everything, when I launch the game, I've just got the bottom of the screen slightly cropped, with means the two right bottom buttons for inventory and something else I think, are cropped. I can reach the inventory etc by the hotkeys but it would be nice to have everything displayed. Is there something I can do about it ?

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:10 AM

What resolution did you enter? It has to be a resolution your screen supports, to see which resolutions are supported fo to System Preferences (on your Mac, not Torment) -> Displays. Only use the ones listed there.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:15 AM

I entered 1280 in X and 800 in Y, as it is the resolution I am using on my macbook pro 13'. It is the same in 1152x720 and 1024x768. :mellow:

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:25 AM

Wait, did you also install Ghostdog's UI mod? Bigg's Windescrren Mod messes a lot of things up, so you should really use Ghostdog's UI mod.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:18 AM

Yes I also installed it, the last, following the order given in the description of your wrapp...

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:48 AM

In that case i'm all out of ideas :( The only guess I have would be playing around with Wineskin's screen settings (remember: right-click Planescape Torment.app -> Show Package Contents -> Wineskin.app) or trying out another engine, updating Wineskin (found under Advanced in Wineskin)...

Get Wineskin Winery from the official website and use it to download new Wineskin engines.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

I'll be re-uploading my backup of this port soon so you might wanna give that a try.
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:54 AM

Ohhh... Ive been struggling to be play the game but still not possible, shit. If anyone can help me. But HiPhis I must say that Im really grateful, you helped me so much ;)

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

Of course you could still play the game in its original resolution or try some resolution lower than 1280x800. Personally I think the resolution the one of the least problems of Torment.

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But HiPhis I must say that Im really grateful, you helped me so much ;)
Well, helping is my job in some way, I have a side job teaching math as a private tutor. I understand the frustration from a lack of information and most people just need someone to point them in the right direction, to explain things in plain language, not technobabble, so they can figure the rest out themselves.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:08 AM

Cool, if only there were more you on the web :)

Original resolution is 800x600 ?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:53 AM

From a quick Google search:

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The Widescreen mod works extremely well in Planescape: Torment, but unfortunately when you change the resolution, almost all of the UI elements and game effects are shown in the top-left area since they were set for the original 640x480 game resolution. What this mod does is center all of these elements and enhance the UI with original game art to fit nicely with other resolutions.
http://www.spellhold...hostdogs-pst-ui

It just so happens that someone posted this in the comments section of my port:

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Hi,MacbookPro with 1440x900 resolution, and I had exactly the same issue. What I am doing is running the game in a lower resolution than my screen size - for me 1280x800 - and that solved it.

Hope it helps.
http://portingteam.c.../#comment_28673

My iMac's screen size is 1920x1800 and since the game would be unplayably tiny at that resolution I chose a lower one. Try a resolution that's lower than your screen's native one.

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Cool, if only there were more you on the web :)
Thanks :) Well, I hope if I help others they might one day help other people and one day the helpful will outnumber the unhelpful. When I first arrived here I had no idea what to do, but the users were nice to get me on the right track.
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:53 AM

All rights cause that's what I did. I tried in 1152x720 and 1024x576 but it didn't work neither. I will try re-install the game from the beginning.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:22 AM

Are you sure those reoslutions are supported by your screen? 1024x576 is not even a 16:10 ratio, 1024x640 is. 1024x576 is a 16:9 ratio, which is used for TVs, but computer monitors usually have a 16:10 ratio (width divided by height)

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Just for info I set the resolution at 1280x800 in wineskin screen options and set override resolution and now it works like charm.
http://portingteam.c.../#comment_28723
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Posted 26 April 2012 - 10:44 AM

Janojans check your PMs - i sent you a link that should help you with your problem.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 04:10 AM

It's working perfectly now... :D

Thank you so much. Though the beginning of the game is not exactly as exciting as compared to the pain I got to install it :P I read that the story was really amazing, if not the best ever written for a rpg, so I guess it takes a little bit of time. I'll definitely give the game a fair chance ;)

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 07:26 AM

You might wanna consider updating it to a more recent Wineskin version - i think my port uses a fairly old build (RC7) if I'm not mistaken.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 11:25 AM

View PostJanojans, on 27 April 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

It's working perfectly now... :D

Thank you so much. Though the beginning of the game is not exactly as exciting as compared to the pain I got to install it :P I read that the story was really amazing, if not the best ever written for a rpg, so I guess it takes a little bit of time. I'll definitely give the game a fair chance ;)
That's your first time? Yeah, the story is pretty good for a video game, the problem is that everything else ( i. e. the game part of this RPG) falls really flat. You should really make a diplomatic character with high intelligence, charisma and wisdom, the rest is not important. Alsways try to talk your way out of fights, it saves you the tedious awful combat and gives better rewards. If you cannot just run past the enemies (press R to toggle running, there is never a reason not to run). If you have to fight just throw everythign at the enemy, don't waste you time with tactics, there is none. Even if your character is a lousy fighter, just stick to the fighter class, use decent equipment for your characters and watch the fight play out on autopilot.
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