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[Daniel Mongo ッ]

Got this from the disney game "Brave"

Hope it will be useful =)

Here's the wrapper


http://www.mediafire...f1zuu5crafc0af7

[REBOOT]

Not bad. I'll download it later.

Thx for upload.

[rynotheking14]

hope this one has no drm...

[Daniel Mongo ッ]

How do you find out about the drm?

[thanoulas]

It's probably not gonna work, it's from App Store..

[rynotheking14]

and nope, this one doesnt work either,

maybe we have reached the end of cider...

[hmtinc]

rynotheking14, on 26 June 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

and nope, this one doesnt work either,

maybe we have reached the end of cider...

we have reached the end of uncopyrighted cider
Stupid transgaming , Why you no let us use cider freely

First we lost CXZ/CXEx
Then we lost CXZ/CXEx components of CiderX
Now we are losing cider

[REBOOT]

Because Transgaming NEED money for making their new product like GameTreeTV.

Remember: Cider tools is NOT free because Transgaming always make great code like rich. They are used by publisher only. (Example: EA)

Btw, How did we lost CXZ/CXEx? Because CodeWeavers(Creator of CX) did broke it?

[Daniel Mongo ッ]

Oh well... Sorry it didnt work out =C

[Hrachya]

... Isn't it possible to by pass the drm? We have programmers here.

[thanoulas]

First, I don't think we should get that dramatic.. The Mac App Store version will eventually be cracked, which means that Apple's DRM will be removed or bypassed. Furthermore, there is a bare non appstore version, which could already be DRM free. As far as I know, the only DRM tg ever applied to cider is either App Store or Steam. Even in the case of steam, cider can be used to run steam apps with their appropriate steam cracks. I think I did that with an earlier 8xxx version.

In a quick view of the dasm'd code in the cider binary that I had, they seem to just use

ptrace(PT_DENY_ATTACH, 0, 0, 0);

to prevent the debugger from attaching to the process, and then a pthread check. If these two checks are successful, cider starts as it should.
So I'd say we wait a little before saying that it's over for cider

Continued:
Here's the application signature:

Quote

Executable=/Users/Tom/Desktop/Cider.8213.app/Contents/MacOS/BraveLauncher
Identifier=com.transgaming.brave.appstore
Format=bundle with Mach-O universal (i386 x86_64)
CodeDirectory v=20100 size=399 flags=0x200(kill) hashes=11+5 location=embedded
Hash type=sha1 size=20
CDHash=bcca2c6f053b7603a4c32efca8a6d994bc67b8c2
Signature size=4169
Authority=Apple Mac OS Application Signing
Authority=Apple Worldwide Developer Relations Certification Authority
Authority=Apple Root CA
Info.plist entries=24
Sealed Resources rules=14 files=326
Internal requirements count=2 size=648

And yes, it's also sandboxed:

Executable=/Users/Tom/Desktop/Cider.8213.app/Contents/MacOS/BraveLauncher
??qq)<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>com.apple.security.temporary-exception.mach-lookup.global-name</key>
<array>
  <string>com.transgaming.server:BRVA</string>
</array>
<key>com.apple.security.app-sandbox</key>
<true/>
<key>com.apple.security.device.usb</key>
<true/>
<key>com.apple.security.application-groups</key>
<array>
  <string>KCV26JF3YP.braveappstore</string>
</array>
</dict>
</plist>

[Hrachya]

A more simple explanation would be amazing

[thanoulas]

It's locked down because it's from App Store. A non App Store version of the game might have no DRM and it could work.

[REBOOT]

Sadly, MGS version has DRM. http://www.macgamest...uct/2361/Brave/

MGS said:

Has DRM: Yes

[thanoulas]

Reboot, on 28 June 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Sadly, MGS version has DRM. http://www.macgamest...uct/2361/Brave/

The game might have DRM, but the wrapper may not. The site reports that all the Sims 3 games have DRM as well (which is true) but all their wrappers are usable.

[REBOOT]

I thought there is frameworks contains DRM. like this http://portingteam.c...089/#entry65612 post #8.

[thanoulas]

Reboot, on 28 June 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

I thought there is frameworks contains DRM. like this http://portingteam.c...089/#entry65612 post #8.

The only DRM I've come across in cider is steam, MAS, or CD Key (there's two flavours, EACDKey and TGCDKey). Any other DRM could be in the game's exe and not in the cider binary. The only DRM this one has though, is MAS. I've actually run something with this one, but it's useless because you can't edit the .plist, it's signed. Even so, you'd need a certain MAS crack, and run the exe from the original game directory.

[piratx]

Thanks man gonna try some games I am keeping for tests