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#31 Drakulix

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 06:28 PM

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Wow, Now I'm even starting to get really excited about all this...I've just started using Cider and I think this new interface is going to be something outstanding.

That being said, does CiderX, or more so the Cider Frameworks utilize the wine .dll.so files? If so I have a potential mouse fix that you could work into the interface. It has worked for me on dozens of occasions.

It's pretty cool you're considering to implement converter to create .icns files....this is going to be a sure fire hit once it's finally released...I'm pretty stoked about it.

Thank you. I am really trying to make it as user-friendly as possible. Cider is the most difficult wrapper around here.

Cider does sadly not load dll.so files. Only dylibs. But it should be possible to compile some of wines dll in dylibs. Since there are using pretty similar dll functions. If you compare older wine build so-files with cider's dylibs, they are really similar. You can get all functions of those files by using the nm-command in terminal btw. You type "nm " and drag&drop the file to the terminal, hit enter.
Based on this I want to try writing my own cider-dll-plugin after this project. Should be possible and would keep Cider alive, if we would be able to program our own dll options. But that is talking about the future.
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Posted 25 March 2011 - 07:04 PM

looks great...excited :D

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 07:17 PM

Hey.. It looks awesome! You are really working hard!
But hey, a little suggestion:
The Dll override, maybe a little "help" or info how to use that? xD I really don't know what it is. Or is it just me? I heard a lot talk about it
ONLY a suggestion! :)
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Posted 25 March 2011 - 07:49 PM

damn looks like a complete porter package looking good
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Posted 25 March 2011 - 08:19 PM

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Hey.. It looks awesome! You are really working hard!
But hey, a little suggestion:
The Dll override, maybe a little "help" or info how to use that? xD I really don't know what it is. Or is it just me? I heard a lot talk about it
ONLY a suggestion!

Yeah everything will be explained.
It should be user-friendly, that is the first goal.

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 08:34 PM

Sweet!!
Its becoming a pain to wait for this!:P
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Posted 25 March 2011 - 08:44 PM

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all possible winetricks, displayed as a list, that are running in Cider
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PhysX from DAO Cider
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vcrun fixed for cider
cod5 audio fix (? was requested)

EXCELLENt now it wont be so hard to implement a good physx
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Posted 25 March 2011 - 09:36 PM

Looks like it's got almost anything that you'll ever need. Looking really good, I haven't really got anything to add! :D

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 10:19 PM

This looks very promising! Nice Job, again, Drakulix! I will be trying it out!
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 05:01 AM

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Ok! Great! I like it!!! I just can't imagine how is it going to work! Just one thing, don't rush! We don't want it to be laggy! Spend your time on that.
About the functions:

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...Background Music...
No background music, this is not a club or something -.-
Dont worry, thats for the launcher when you run the app. For an example, check ports made with the DAO2 wrapper

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 06:32 AM

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Ok! Great! I like it!!! I just can't imagine how is it going to work! Just one thing, don't rush! We don't want it to be laggy! Spend your time on that.
About the functions:
  

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...Background Music...
No background music, this is not a club or something -.-
Dont worry, thats for the launcher when you run the app. For an example, check ports made with the DAO2 wrapper

Also this would be optional for your ports. I just thought about ways to improve the launcher.

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 09:37 AM

So nearly everyone has answered and everybody like the draft.
I'll start the the Icon Contest this evening in the Artist Section.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 12:11 PM

A bit delayed but the Icon Contest has been started:

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:18 PM

Thoughts?
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:05 PM

looks very professional...i like it

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:07 PM

A bit too simple for my taste, perhaps.

But either way, you have to go into a direction; either make it as easy as possible for new users while making things a bit harder on advanced Porters, or make the interface too complicated and it will turn off new guys.

Still, Icons look good but don't fit so well (what's with the plane or the idea blub?),
If Icons are used, they should graphically say what that section is about.

(Side note: I know it's just a placeholder, but so much description/white space for a simple ON/OFF switch is kinda overkill, me thinks...)
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:15 PM

Thanks for the feedback.
Really opened my eyes.
I think I have to change some things.
There must be a way between advanced and easy to use.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:25 PM

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There must be a way between advanced and easy to use.

Put in 'two' interfaces.
One for new users and one for advanced users; this way you can keep the most required things in the new users tab and everything looks clean and nice, on the pro side you can litter every bit of white space with buttons and settings or the like.

Example, the settings of VLC:

Simple Intertface:
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Advanced Settings:
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Simple settings is great and things are explained very well, but occasionally i have to to into the advanced settings to tune the timings of a video decoder for example.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:06 PM

Now at-least the icons look better:
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Yeah I planned to make "two" interfaces, but I just thought about hiding advanced features.
Changing the complete interface could be interesting. Thanks, I will think about that.

(Yeah it is just a placeholder. For log files this space will be better, for the preferences it is wasted space.
But I have already a pretty good idea how to use it better.)
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:18 PM

Looks absolutely perfect!  I can't think of anything more you could add to make CiderX 2.0 better than it already is!

Great Job!!!

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:31 PM

Then you will be surprised by the final version. I have so many more ideas. ^^
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:48 PM

I agree with devilhunter on his side note (Side note: I know it's just a placeholder, but so much description/white space for a simple ON/OFF switch is kinda overkill, me thinks...), maybe create something leaner and cleaner like VLC settings, but use tooltips (that appear by hovering the mouse over the setting) or "question mark" or "what is it?" links that pop up a window with the explanation. That way, you could fit more into the same space without burdening it.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:50 AM

AWESOME!!!!!!!! :D!
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Posted 29 May 2011 - 06:27 PM

Soo, how's it coming along?
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Posted 29 May 2011 - 07:17 PM

Sadly..., not really good. :(
I am very busy with exams at school. In about two weeks, I will have a classtrip to italy, then two weeks of holidays with the family. So nearly no time to develop anything. It is a really time consuming work. Time I just don't have...

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:56 AM

I know how you feel...exams take up so much time(either time being wasted being frustrated or trying to study)

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 05:46 PM

Oh, not good to hear. I have exams too.. Soo i know how you fell. BUT, its it going to be awesome!:D
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 05:45 AM

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Oh, not good to hear. I have exams too.. Soo i know how you fell. BUT, its it going to be awesome!:D
Well Elementary School for da win!! Just waiting for the scores of my exams.
Oh, haha, thats how you look at it XD
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Posted 01 June 2011 - 05:56 AM

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What do u mean? I'm 12 n i go to elementary right now.
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