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#1 Demondays1

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:23 PM

What would you do?

would you:

-Continue porting games
-learn how to port
-look for another site where you can leech free ported mac games
-Quit porting

Personally, I would still port games; get everything extremely good and try to open a site myself but thats what I would do.

what would YOU do?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

I guess I'd remove my bookmarks...

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:06 PM

Maybe I join WineHQ and CrossOver Forum...

Btw, I can play any games on Steam.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:32 PM

Don't ask these kind of questions. It won't go down.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:00 PM

Why so negative ?
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostKGameLover1, on 24 April 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Don't ask these kind of questions. It won't go down.

I never said it will, im just saying what would you do.

View Posthmtinc, on 24 April 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Why so negative ?

Im not negative, just asking what would you do?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:31 AM

View PostDemondays1, on 24 April 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

I never said it will, im just saying what would you do.



Im not negative, just asking what would you do?
Also why would even create a topic such as this ?
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:31 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 25 April 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

Also why would even create a topic such as this ?
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just to see what people will say

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

I would install a Windows partition on my Mac.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:35 PM

I'd buy a pc.



Naaah.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:27 AM

burn my macbook and un hackitosh my other computers
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

Well as long as the Mac is able to host wineskin\cider and play windows games through those I'd still be wrapping games. I just would have one less forum to sometimes go to. To be honest I rarely download any pre-configured wrappers from here but it is pretty handy to see what others have done. But then again there's always WINEHQ and other places to look for tips. Not that I would be happy if this place closed.

But it wouldn't be as apocalyptic to our cause as Apple moving the Mac to an ARM CPU based platform. In that event we'd be back to behing beholden to only what the porting houses deem worthy of us to play on the Mac as x86 emulation (if someone made it) on there would most likely be dog slow for gaming if it ran anything at all and chances are it wouldn't.. just like WINE on PowerPC with x86 emulation. Like I said before if push came to shove I'd go back to Windows. Hell, even I see that they have more native, faster games on there and more timely than even what we can get through WINE. After all it has to be on there first before it can be ported or wrapped and WINE's compatibility is rarely perfect especially for new games.
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:18 PM

I'd keep porting games for personal use. Maybe upload the ports and display them on a blog, similar to PaulTheTall. Only, I'm nowhere near as skilled as him. Not as much practice. XD
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:36 PM

Doesn't take skill as much as lovin to do it, and a drive to do it.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:39 PM

.....and a whole lotta troubleshooting and testing!

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:07 AM

Unless something happens with paying for the server/software/etc, I doubt PT would go down.

From what I've heard, it practically runs itself :) (or at least most of it does)
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:25 PM

I would kill that Demondays1 guy and then kill myself ò_ó
Jk. =P

I probably think more seriously on switching to some GNU/Linux distro, you may not believe me but the portingteam is 1 of the few reasons that keeps me using OSX.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:40 PM

if the PT went down ... we would have some advanced notice . At that time i would download as many wrappers i could .
Then i would buy the Portingteam.com Domain from the owner and start the forums again :D  with some open source software like mybb or phpbb :D
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:01 AM

View Posteridani, on 15 May 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

I would kill that Demondays1 guy and then kill myself blinxfrost ò_ó
Jk. =P

I probably think more seriously on switching to some GNU/Linux distro, you may not believe me but the portingteam is 1 of the few reasons that keeps me using OSX.
fixed.
I'm jk though, demondays and blinx are probably pretty cool IRL

ALSO, WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

I would sell my imac....



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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

View PostDemondays1, on 24 April 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

What would you do?

would you:

-Continue porting games
-learn how to port
-look for another site where you can leech free ported mac games
-Quit porting

Personally, I would still port games; get everything extremely good and try to open a site myself but thats what I would do.

what would YOU do?

P.s, a small a game :)

I have all my ports on my website colemancda.zxq.net and macbook so im good. I suggest that everybody upload their work here, but also make a blog or something as an backup so people can continue downloading ports.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:38 PM

View Posteridani, on 15 May 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

I would kill that Demondays1 guy and then kill myself ò_ó
Jk. =P

I probably think more seriously on switching to some GNU/Linux distro, you may not believe me but the portingteam is 1 of the few reasons that keeps me using OSX.

I would just continue using mac since it rocks and i make ports myself, plus mac has tons of native games compared to linux (aoe3, warcraft3, valve source games, batman arkamasylum, mac app store games) so i dont understand your reasoning. If you know how to port using wine, ud have to go through all the trouble of basically portinga all your  games to ubuntu or whatever (without pre made cider wrappers) and you can't share your work with other because its not  a wrapper. So assuming that you are a good porter if something happened to the wrappers on this site why would you go through the hassle of switching to linux and porting those games yourself if hypothetically ud have to do it again anyways in OS X? and im assuming that you're installing linux on your hackintosh or pc because doing that on a mac would be crazy.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:53 PM

View Posteridani, on 15 May 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

I would kill that Demondays1 guy and then kill myself ò_ó
Jk. =P

I probably think more seriously on switching to some GNU/Linux distro, you may not believe me but the portingteam is 1 of the few reasons that keeps me using OSX.

Linux is good and free, but the drivers aren't. Macs GUI is great, as a developer Xcode is great, the kernel and drivers are god like compared to all other systems, the audio framework and core animation or whatever is unbeatable. I was considering what system i should use for the reast of my life and there are pro and cons to mac vs linux, the the pros of mac waaaay out wieght the cons.

Macs

---pros
-kexts provide great energy saving compared to other systems, no other OS can save as much energy as efficiently as OS X.
-hardware acceleration runs relatively separate form the rest of the system, thats why a graphics card is obligatory in making a hackintosh compared to Windows using a mix of software and hardware graphics accletarion.
-Tons of native games compared to linux
-.app wrappers not available in linux
-Every friggin program you install doesn't check for like a couple hundred dependencies like linux does.
-the quality of their products is awesome
-the system doenst lag like ubuntu, though that doesnt count for the rest of linux distros which are pretty fast

---cons
-Macs are relatively expensive
-its a legally its a grey area to do hackintoshing
-Youre at the mercy of apple (i dont care, if they try to jack their prices people will stop buying anyways so that never gonna happen, plus they make the best products in the world, everybody is hooked to iOS devices and their prices only goes down. I dont like iOS all that much btw)


I say Mac beats linux. tell me to pros of linux.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:24 PM

Since im being quoted i'll take the liberty of hijacking this thread a bit. You may skip all the lines up to the big bold words below.

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... I say Mac beats Linux. Tell me to pros of Linux.
Well, i agree with you on pros and cons of Macs, have to say that being at Apple's mercy is what i most dislike of Macs, OSX and other Apple products. I also have to disagree on the "best products in the world" which is a subjective and difficult topic, lets just say that are good products in some ways and not that great on other ways. But i'll try to explain myself.

When i switched from Windows XP to Tiger, believe me "it was like the Mac was gibed to me by aliens" loved how Apple took care of almost every detail:

- The video playing in the dock when QuickTime were minimized

- The list created with spotlight search (i know! but is just not the same rite...)

- The nicely made icons

Have the new AppStore, iTunes & QuickTime X icons analyzed by graphic designers, most of them gonna tell you these icons are pure poop, it goes far away from the "i like / i dislike it" discussion.

- Exposé dude! great improvement to productivity.

- How wallpapers could change over time

- Unified menu bar, thats a true win!

- Loved brushed metal but this is just a whim

- How the space of every GUI was tapped carefully

Far from the so called " Apple's minimalism" is more about... we call it "organic unity", nothing is lacking and nothing is superfluous... well almost nothing, style is a different thing. If we compare the Finder against any file browser on Linux or Windows, there is no comparison, these 2 are plagued of design errors some important ones belongs to the usability / ergonomic areas.

- Tons of other things that i can't remember right now

- One of the most important is "It just works" if you know what i mean

Then Leopard came out and they added some great features and improvements!

- Piles/stacks on the Dock

- QuickLook & Spaces, (if it weren't for these 2 and the ¡damn compatibility! i would be typing this from Tiger)

- Time machine (don't use it much but it saved my life one or two times)

- Many more things i love but im too lazy to write down here and

- last but of course not least STABILITY, only 2 kernel panics in more than 6 years and one of them was due to a defective Kingston USB drive (btw, both were on Tiger)


But Lion, god Lion!, i used it at the U, i can't remember precisely what i dislike about it, but im sure wasn't just a single thing. What i do remember is that every time i took a lesson and used Lion i thought "this is bullsh*t i better do this when im home it gonna take less effort", "gush were is that option, it used to be here", "man so this is still not working". All i know of Mountain Lion is that is way better than its predecessor, which is a good thing, but that is the same thing i know about Windows 7 (and 8) im not sure if i wanna test my luck, although i know it is less risky if i upgrade to ML than if i switch back to windows XD. Also, still talking about Lion, seriously, what with Apple and that poopty perception of the skeuomorphism concept to design new app's GUIs!.

Anyway, actually i still like Snow Leopard (and is a great chance i might like ML as well), it has some disadvantages compared to Leopard, Tiger and some big advantages. I know, theres nothing perfect, but why they had to touch things that already worked great just to mess up things! (have no problem if they do improvements that justify the changes but they don't in many cases).

I.e. i had to mod my dock app, changing it for Leopard one (MacThemes guides FTW) in order to have it working the way i like, but with this i lost some functionalities (forget about the progression icon when you install any app using the MAS) fortunately i can live without 'em. One of the most important cons of OSX is the Finder's sucky FTP support, not even Pathfinder provides full FTP support, this may be a big problem when you do web design, actually i use Sublime Text 2 + some plug-in and Cyberduck combo to solvent this need and it works flawlessly. ^.^

Oh, i hate Mission Control!, Exposé + Spaces were great on SL just needed some little improvements to be perfect, i know Dashboard was forgotten, but was necessary messing that much with Exposé + Spaces?

Other thing is OpenGL, although i don't use it for work, why can't they just implement the modern version of it? dude! Windows uses v4.x already and they have DiectX; Linux uses it too.  I think this may be a problem for bringing native games to OSX. You, Doh and the others may know much more about this than me and may tell if my concern is unfounded.

What else? mmm, does anyone said iCloud? well you have 2 options if you are on 10.6.x upgrade or update, to either ML or WinXP your choice... XP, Isn't this ironic? btw, problem closely linked to the programed obsolescence term, topic in which Apple is the Lord and Master and i (and every sane user should) really hate.

Then there is the Apple's vision, the vision which did that to Final Cut and which is the reason why the MacBook Pro isn't pro anymore (just tell me why is easier for one to see what happens at our backs than the game we are playing on our screens...), this vision is also the reason we don't have native BluRay support, ThunderBolt uses copper, is to difficult to upgrade HDD or RAM to some Mac models, the AirPort Utility became a joke with its latest update; dude 14 years with HFS+ is quite a long time!, USB 3 were late...

Pros on Linux? well for what i need Linux is not that different to any other OS. Any task i may need to fulfill can be accomplished the same way on Linux or OSX or even windows (idk about BSD & Solaris).

Gaming? well i mostly use Wine/Cider for anything im playing and if it works on Mac it is a high chance on getting it running on Linux whit more or less effort. So the big pro is the philosophy that supports it and not having so many big cons. XD

There is one truly important fact in the way i see the world that might be intrinsic to my future decisions. Since about 2 years i were thinking (every day passes more seriously) on alternative economic models and social organization; you know that thing about imperialism, capitalism, neoliberalism, freedom, ecology, solidarity, cooperativism, sustainability, etc. you see, holistic perception of humanity's structure. At this point Linux goals and philosophy may be closer to my ideals.

Is not about what Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion or even Linux are, or are capable of doing today; is about the path Apple is following, the direction both sides are going; im not sure if my principles agree with those of Apple products anymore.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 11:31 PM

Well you have some good points, and i agree that apple's ideals aren't mine either, but the OS works great (im sure it'll get viruses soon, and linux too) and the big deal for me is Xcode. The documentation is unparalleled. Thats why im studying  objective c because I'm empowered by the tools. Honestly i hope that in the future we can move away from mac and use puredarwin (google it). Becuase the mach kernel is awesome (we can mac apps that run on ppc and intel, imagine having an imitation of os x installed on your laptop and on a tablet, one with arm cpu and the other with intel and the same apps work). i am in agreement with gnu and linux ideals BUT the current implementation of those ideals have problems, like ubuntu and debien and etc. Puppy linux was a stable and good linux distro, but lacked ported software. So i hope when i become a good porgrammer im gonna work on the wine project, and the puredarwin project, becuase darwin is the future for me, if apple at least made it legal to make OEM PCs with mac then that be a great step step, but i dont want them in total control of my life and my os. I think the perfect OS is a OS based on the open source components of MAC OS X (especially the kernel the most important component), and like wine exists for unix to run windows a compatibilty layer might exist to run the proprietary apple frameworks on darwin. So for now I'm not planning on using linux. plus linux can not have graphics acceleration with EFI. ill only support a OS that uses EFI and bios (or only efi) because we are past msdos days to be using bios. DOH123 should now about OpenGL more i.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 11:33 PM

BTW, i think lion and ml are annoying for desktop. I have snow leopard on my desktop and ML on my macbook. Lion and ML should only be used with a trackpad its horrible with a mouse. I also  dislike iCloud.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 12:14 AM

Meh, works fine for me with a mouse (magic mouse) and it's not like either lion or mountain lion are tablet OS'.
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 12:52 AM

View Postsmoketetsu, on 05 September 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Meh, works fine for me with a mouse (magic mouse) and it's not like either lion or mountain lion are tablet OS'.
Yea lets hope apple never makes OSX a tablet OS like Microsoft did to windows .
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:25 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 05 September 2012 - 12:52 AM, said:

Yea lets hope apple never makes OSX a tablet OS like Microsoft did to windows .
I think that was the first intention on Apple when they began with Lion or maybe they were thinking on that even before? Apple gave us some signs of this, you know MacBook Air, Magic Trackpad, Apple Newton?, its just that they are going for that change slowly.
In the other hand Microsoft just noticed that their presence on mobile devices was merely anecdotal and decided to haste things a bit.

But yah hope the same for the near future, but i do think that's the way to go in the mid term (say 10-15 years max), only light (but complete to some point) terminals for everyone and workstations for people whose need more than gaming. Of course the cloud gonna be fundamental and i hope not the actual cloud.

Just guessing, maybe i just watched to much sci-fi...




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