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#1 Alsey Coleman Miller

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:57 AM

So do any of you guys know C or Cocoa? i can't download Xcode because i have an Hackintosh with only 10.7 not the newest.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:00 AM

View PostAlsey Coleman Miller, on 08 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

So do any of you guys know C or Cocoa? i can't download Xcode because i have an Hackintosh with only 10.7 not the newest.
Cocoa is a APi
and mac osx i programed in -c

I know -c .

Also , heres a tutorial on how to update hackintosh to 10.7.3
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=pUZzGD9MKxw
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:08 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 08 May 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

Cocoa is a APi
and mac osx i programed in -c

I know -c .

Also , heres a tutorial on how to update hackintosh to 10.7.3
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=pUZzGD9MKxw

The new kernel breaks my OSX86. By '-c' 'minus c' you mean C programming language? i learned C but know i need to move on to objective C.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:10 AM

View PostAlsey Coleman Miller, on 08 May 2012 - 03:08 AM, said:

The new kernel breaks my OSX86. By '-c' 'minus c' you mean C programming language? i learned C but know i need to move on to objective C.
there is a big difference between c and -c
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:12 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 08 May 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

there is a big difference between c and -c

wow never heard of -c. ill look it up.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:14 AM

Is it -c or c--?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:18 AM

View Postcluthz, on 08 May 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Guys, this thread is about ryno asking for help, not arguing about c vs -c and so forth.

I can move those post to a separate thread if you like, or I can delete them.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:18 AM

View PostAlsey Coleman Miller, on 08 May 2012 - 03:12 AM, said:

wow never heard of -c. ill look it up.

View PostAlsey Coleman Miller, on 08 May 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Is it -c or c--?
You don't know do you.

- c is short for objective c :D
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:20 AM

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:24 AM

View PostAlsey Coleman Miller, on 08 May 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

So do any of you guys know C or Cocoa? i can't download Xcode because i have an Hackintosh with only 10.7 not the newest.

You can make an account on developer.apple.com (free) and download an older version of Xcode.
I'm still mostly using 3.2.6, since 4.2.x and newer doesn't have a proper GCC compiler, but the llwm one instead.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:28 AM

I know cocoa and objective-c and I've never heard of "-c" ... what does knowing that have to do with getting Xcode?  Also, 10.7 is the newest.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:31 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 08 May 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

You don't know do you.

- c is short for objective c :D

sh... i read a bunch of books about objective c and dint know that XD

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:31 AM

View Postcluthz, on 08 May 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

You can make an account on developer.apple.com (free) and download an older version of Xcode.
I'm still mostly using 3.2.6, since 4.2.x and newer doesn't have a proper GCC compiler, but the llwm one instead.

thank you you're a lifesaver ill try that.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:34 AM

View Postdoh123, on 08 May 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

I know cocoa and objective-c and I've never heard of "-c" ... what does knowing that have to do with getting Xcode? Also, 10.7 is the newest.

i meant having 10.7.3 thats the newest and required for Xcode from the mac app store. well i was learning Objective C from Hillegass, Aaron 'Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X' until i tried to update my hackintosh, broke it and reformatted it. Now that i can get the old version i used to have i can do the sample programs provided in the book. so thats how learning objective c had to do with getting Xcode. And i was just curious of how many people besides you that are porters know programming languages.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

I haven't heard anyone call objective-c "-c". Its usually abbreviated as "obj-c"
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 01:49 PM

View PostAlsey Coleman Miller, on 08 May 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

i meant having 10.7.3 thats the newest and required for Xcode from the mac app store. well i was learning Objective C from Hillegass, Aaron 'Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X' until i tried to update my hackintosh, broke it and reformatted it. Now that i can get the old version i used to have i can do the sample programs provided in the book. so thats how learning objective c had to do with getting Xcode. And i was just curious of how many people besides you that are porters know programming languages.

That is a wonderful book. I got most of my obj-c (the correct abbreviation, btw) knowledge from this book and the apple documentation. After the first 4 chapters, I actually did not took a look into the book anymore, since all the logic of this language is explained in there and the online documentation from apple is enough at this point to write any program, if you take your time to figure out the best way. I remember the most difficult part of programming was at the beginning to write something really clean, you are happy with. It can be very annoying, if you are such a perfectionist like me. I do not want to release anything, I would not use myself. :P
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:33 PM

I knew something was screwy with -c since i couldn't find it on google. Yeah its obj-c.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:02 PM

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:24 PM

Never heard of -c before. It's definitely obj-c.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:45 PM

View Posthmtinc, on 08 May 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

- c is short for objective c :D
Hmmm, that's a new one to me.

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That is a wonderful book. I got most of my obj-c (the correct abbreviation, btw) knowledge from this book and the apple documentation.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:13 AM

View Postcluthz, on 08 May 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

C# is the same as Ab
have you ever wondered why they name programming languages after C (with exception of java , web based languages , python , rugby etc )
And c sharp  is not the same as A flat :D

View PostKGameLover1, on 08 May 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Never heard of -c before. It's definitely obj-c.

View PostHeadrush69, on 08 May 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Hmmm, that's a new one to me.


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I always liked Aaron's writings.
I'm also a big fan of Lynda.com videos by Simon Allardice. http://www.lynda.com...oducttypeid%3A2
i prefer writing -c ... its much easier , it saves time then to write out obj-c
also a good book for complete beginners to obj-c would be this http://www.cocoalab....omeAnXcoder.pdf
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:30 AM

View Posthmtinc, on 09 May 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:

And c sharp  is not the same as A flat :D

lol yeah, i just saw what i wrote :P I must have typed wrong, or some spelling correcting editing it.
c sharp = d flat. g sharp however is a flat.
And f flat is... No, it's not e sharp :P

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 01:17 AM

-c is an abbreviation for objective -c lets leave it at that
So y do need someone who knows c and coccoa
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:53 AM

View PostBLACKNIGHT, on 09 May 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

-c is an abbreviation for objective -c lets leave it at that
So y do need someone who knows c and coccoa
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